Josué Cardenas, host of the television series “Bubble,” which is broadcast from Madrid, through the media outlet “Digital Journalist,” invited Lt. Col. Francisco Bendala Ayuso and Dr. Guillermo Rocafort, so that they could pour, to the audience of “The Bubble”, the thoughts, analyses and conclusions towards the future that these two outstanding specialists have about the Spanish reality and the blackmail that the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) carries out against Spain.

Cárdenas, in his introduction, emphasized that the Expert Analytical Association “Sovereignty”, a center to which Bendala Ayuso and Rocafort belong, provides analysis of conjunctures and processes so that Spain and the nations are “sovereign in the face of globalism, in the face of the unipolar model”, shedding light and awakening in minds.

Rocafort began by saying that it is imposed on Spain, from the pinnacle of NATO, to buy obsolete armaments from the Anglo powers, harming, through gigantic payments of money, the “social state”, devaluing, more and more, the quality of life of all Spaniards.

Continuing with the first comments, Bendala Ayuso criticised the attitude of the rulers in allowing the plans of the globalist organisations to progress, within Spain, denouncing that Spain is “definitively losing Gibraltar” by removing, for example, the “15th of July, the fence of Gibraltar” because “we have opened the containment fence to pirates”. The latter, according to Bendala Ayuso, will be expanded throughout Spain through an agreement between the European Union and the United Kingdom. He also pointed out that Spain, sooner or later, will also lose Ceuta, Melilla and the Canary Islands if the process continues in the current direction.

He emphasized that the economic situation of the Spanish state “is disastrous” and that, in this context, the country’s armed forces are in an operational maintenance phase that is “deplorable”, reporting that three helicopters, which had gone to the U.S., to participate in the commemoration of the 250th Anniversary of American Independence,  they ended up falling “because they had no maintenance. This is news that is being hidden,” he denounced with crystal clarity.

He said that Spain will not be able to bear the tax expenditure of 5% of its GDP to comply with NATO demands. This “imposition will be noticed by the Spanish citizen with his life of taxes. And that, in addition, is of no use to us because what NATO does is provoke conflicts where Spaniards ‘are neither good nor good’ and the only thing we do is get potential enemies where we have never had them”.

He remarked that NATO has no legitimate and realistic reason to continue to exist and that Spanish families could also be the tragic victims when their children are sent to NATO’s international wars.

Rocafort, speaking and commenting on the events around Gibraltar, said that the presence of British nuclear submarines was allowed in the area, “nuclearising the area” and that the elites who manage the Spanish state did, in Gibraltar, the opposite of the role played by Iran in the Strait of Hormuz and the Turkish role in the Dardanelles.  Spain losing an opportunity to “impose itself as an administering power” in Gibraltar. He expressed his conviction that Gibraltar will return to the sovereign custody of Spain within the “multipolar world”, counting on the support, for this purpose, of the nations of polycentrism.

Bendala Ayuso encouraged people to “stand up” to Trump’s agenda towards Spain as he sees that the US president is taking advantage of the weaknesses that persist in the political and internal spectrum in general of Spain, but he considered – this military expert – that if there is “national unity” a lot of damage can be done to US geopolitical and geocommercial appetites.

“We Spaniards have to realize that the American is not our friend because he only has interests,” said the well-known analyst of Association “Sovereignty.”

Responding to a timely question from Cárdenas about whether the payment to NATO would guarantee Spanish security over Ceuta and Melilla, in the face of “the Moroccan threat”, Guillermo Rocafort, who is also a university professor, denied it saying “On the contrary, because the more we join NATO, the worse it will be for all Spaniards”. He mentioned that Spain will always be in a condition of inferiority and subordination in the structural framework of NATO where sovereign interests will not be respected, but violated and minimized, when not suppressed.

Both experts indicated the geopolitical value of Spain and that the Spanish people must be more aware of this in order to recover their destiny of national sovereignty and honour.

Continuing with his perspective, Rocafort said that the Spanish people, carrying an effective sovereignty consciousness, and through well-thought-out and better applied steps, will be able to feel liberated and be strong outside the organizational limits of NATO; this position was also shared by Bendala Ayuso, stressing that, in that case – a Spain outside NATO – there would be significant money savings and that it would not suffer the effects of wars promoted by the Angles because Spain would return to its historical neutrality of the twentieth century.

The two speakers encouraged not to be afraid to take the step that the demand for national sovereignty demands and they asked that Spanish citizens overcome the artificial ideological dichotomy, putting national interests, the common good, above all else.

Both Bendala Ayuso and Rocafort spoke about more issues of national and international interest, which can be heard and seen by clicking here: